Re: Boutet - on the Ancient Writing

From: Penny Loafier
To: Jim Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 12:02:44PM
Dear Jim-Michal.

The SW script is a 36-7 letter syllabify. Glozel and Novelana [and the late Tartessian] at BC, are 23-6 letters alphabets.

The SW script is correctly dated by the workers in Portugal, at about 2700-2400 BP. It is partly ancestral to at least five dialect Iberic scripts, and partly co-eval, not entirely, with N Iberic, which is also a syllabify, with a number of syllabic characters. The SW script is based itself on some supra-alphabetic [more than 28 characters probably] precursor of Etruscan [or maybe of Lycian,] see D Stewart's idea, probably from the Lydian to Lycian, and Hittite zonal area.

Glozel has been translated quite adaquately by D Buchanan, [[Epigraphic Soc. O.P's-No's 24. 26 [2006, 2008 etc.,] articles, with Donal seeing it as a mixed, "Semitic trader-Celtici scipt," dating about [4th-3rd [350-250?] century BC, and also now translated by three European main scholars, who found many of the same texts to contain Romainzing personal and place names, in an Italic-Celtici patois, indicating Romanization in progress, [about 140-1 BC; and maybe to about 40 AD.] Some of the same names are known prosopographically real persons [from regular Latin-script inscr. texts, and even literary texts.] [120 BC-40 AD]; and some of the place names involve Romanization at the nearby Vichy Opida-dependent, sub-communities, [about 14 local village to small town place names,] and just later at Claimont.

Glozel derives directly from Lepontic, which derives partly from Neo-Etrsucan, all post-450 BC scripts.

Novelana often has a ligatured, or semi-iconic-logoramic "Emblem Glyph" involved-with it, as on the BC cave wall panels Falcon's tex; [tsee -An Am current issue article,] see the two connected middle elements-[being a located geographically recently by us Emblem Glyph,] also on the BC-EG stone, [in Frank Joseph 2008.]

But we may have two examples of a SW script-type short text, from real BC contexts, indicating a 5th to 4th century BC date, maybe???..

More soon, Genny.